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Monday, October 20, 2008

Ideology Does Matter, Dammit.

By show of hands, does anyone know any of the following groups?
1. Weather Underground Organization(WUO)
2. Black Panthers (BP)
3. The Weathermen (TW)
4. Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)
5. May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO)
6. Prairie Fire

If you were born after about 1960 like I was, then you have no personal recollection of these groups or if you do, it was only because you were stuck watching the news at 12 years of age when the antennae couldn't quite pick up the other two channels. These groups are one and the same, sort of. I won't bother you with a detailed chronology, but the SDS was a communist oriented group organized by Tom Hayden, former husband of Jane Fonda and a senator from California. Hayden was one of the "Chicago Seven" that organized a violent demonstration at the 1968 democratic convention (If you ever want to discuss this, I am friends with one of the federal law enforcement officers who spent two years undercover and was there for all of this).

So the SDS evolved into The Weatherman with influences from the Black Panthers. The Weatherman were involved in a number of incidents. In the late 1960s there was a faction of TW that wanted a more Marxist and more violent approach to their movement. The Weather Underground was a split from The Weathermen, and Bill Ayers was one of the Weather Underground's leaders. The guy that everyone is painting as a gentle, non-issue to the Obama campaign was a terrorist who wanted a Marxist approach to society in America.

I should mention here that the Weather Underground was responsible for a number of bombings: in San Francisco that killed a police officer, a New York city police station, a bombing in Greenwich village, and the bombing of the Pentagon on the birthday of Ho Chi Minh that destroyed classified information are just a few.

WUO, more specifically Bernadine Dorhn and Bill Ayers, published the group's manifesto, called "Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism". These are people that hated America, and still do. They are people who refused to support democracy and have attempted their entire lives to disrupt America. They described themselves as communists! (More info HERE)

Yet we are told that the relationship between Obama and Ayers is cursory and doesn't mean anything. We are told that Obama was eight years old when the WUO was active. Today, it was revealed that in 1997 Obama endorsed a book by Ayers. You will hear that it really doesn't matter, that it wasn't a review of the book and that Ayers and Obama aren't really connected. So you have to believe one of two things: Either Obama is lying about his relationship with Ayers, or that he is a liar when he gave a resounding endorsement of a book, but now says he didn't know enough about the author and couldn't be trusted when he recommended the book with his picture inside! Hell, Obama was mentioned in the book by Ayers as an acquaintance. Oh, by the way, it was in 2002 that Ayers said he wished he had done more to disrupt America, and that the group should have been more violent. Obama may have been eight when Ayers was setting off bombs, but he was a state senator when the guy who asked him to recommend his book was saying that he wasn't enough of a terrorist to get the job done.

It matters. Ideology matters. Don't fall for this tripe about how we should be bipartisan. That might be appropriate when supporting our troops in war, but it is damned irresponsible when we are talking about democracy and socialism and communism. Stand by your convictions. Stand by America, and stand by democracy. We cannot allow friends of communist terrorists to occupy our White House.

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Anonymous said...

Great post Robert! It certainly matters and anyone that says differently is in denial or just doesn't care about America. To look past this is beyond foolish.

(O)CT(O)PUS said...

So the SDS evolved into The Weatherman with influences from the Black Panthers.

Wrong again. The SDS was an offshoot of the ADA (Americans for Democratic Action) and in no way affiliated with the WU.

Hayden was one of the "Chicago Seven" that organized a violent demonstration at the 1968 democratic convention

The Democratic Convention in 1968 was termed "a police riot" by the press at that time, nor was it "organized." I ought to know since I was there.

I am friends with one of the federal law enforcement officers who spent two years undercover and was there for all of this

Did your friend tell you about the Kent State massacre ... and the murder of innocent students who were simply on their way to class that day?

So you were born after 1960. When was the last time you had your diaper changed?

Robert (Conservative Commentary) said...

Actually, no. The Weather Underground was comprised of leaders from a faction of the SDS. Bernadine Dorhn, John Jacobs, and Mark Rudd. All of them left the youth Movement of the SDS and became leaders in the WUO.

Obob said...

a win for obama would give fale vindication to the radicals who influenced him. They know a pardon would be waiting if prosecuted. Or he would sacrifice for his good.
It may come to Obama's win to flush out the loons and let the American people see their folly. Of course it would require and independent media to report this.

WomanHonorThyself said...

ideology matters indeed!

(O)CT(O)PUS said...

Yup, ideology sure does matter. CC Goldwater, the granddaughter of conservative Senator Barry Goldwater (deceased) of Arizona explains Why McCain Has Lost Our Vote. Here is her statement in full:

Being Barry Goldwater's granddaughter and living in Arizona, one would assume that I would be voting for our state's senator, John McCain. I am still struck by certain 'dyed in the wool' Republicans who are on the fence this election, as it seems like a no-brainer to me.

Myself, along with my siblings and a few cousins, will not be supporting the Republican presidential candidates this year. We believe strongly in what our grandfather stood for: honesty, integrity, and personal freedom, free from political maneuvering and fear tactics. I learned a lot about my grandfather while producing the documentary, Mr. Conservative Goldwater on Goldwater. Our generation of Goldwaters expects government to provide for constitutional protections. We reject the constant intrusion into our personal lives, along with other crucial policy issues of the McCain/Palin ticket.

My grandfather (Paka) would never suggest denying a woman's right to choose. My grandmother co-founded Planned Parenthood in Arizona in the 1930's, a cause my grandfather supported. I'm not sure about how he would feel about marriage rights based on same-sex orientation. I think he would feel that love and respect for ones privacy is what matters most and not the intolerance and poor judgment displayed by McCain over the years. Paka respected our civil liberties and passed on the message that that we should conduct our lives standing up for the basic freedoms we hold so dear.

For a while, there were several candidates who aligned themselves with the Goldwater version of Conservative thought. My grandfather had undying respect for the U.S. Constitution, and an understanding of its true meanings.

There always have been a glimmer of hope that someday, someone would "race through the gate" full steam in Goldwater style. Unfortunately, this hasn't happened, and the Republican brand has been tarnished in a shameless effort to gain votes and appeal to the lowest emotion, fear. Nothing about McCain, except for maybe a uniform, compares to the same ideology of what Goldwater stood for as a politician. The McCain/Palin plan is to appear diverse and inclusive, using women and minorities to push an agenda that makes us all financially vulnerable, fearful, and less safe.

When you see the candidate's in political ads, you can't help but be reminded of the 1964 presidential campaign of Johnson/Goldwater, the 'origin of spin', that twists the truth and obscures what really matters. Nothing about the Republican ticket offers the hope America needs to regain it's standing in the world, that's why we're going to support Barack Obama. I think that Obama has shown his ability and integrity.

After the last eight years, there's a lot of clean up do. Roll up your sleeves, Senators Obama and Biden, and we Goldwaters will roll ours up with you.

Maybe you folks are not the conservatives you think you are ... maybe you are the ones pushing that "smear and fear agenda" that CC Goldwater is talking about.

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