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Thursday, December 21, 2006

Last Weekend Push To The Big Day

I have neglected to post for a few days, partially because the last thread was a topic of conversation,and partially because I have been so busy.

This joy chick on "The View." Why did she get a pass for the outrageous comparison of Rumsfield to Hitler?

I will definitely be shopping tonight and this weekend. We say every year that we will start our Christmas shopping in July, but the last weekend is always on top of us and we have barely started. I have to do something about that next year....yeah, right.

It has been a little more difficult to get in the Christmas spirit this year. Mostly because I have been so busy with the new job, but also because the temp has been in the 70s these last two weeks. I actually turned on the air conditioner a few days ago.

I did have the opportunity to teach my two little ones about the Salvation Army at Wal-mart the other day. On the way out of the store we stopped, and I gave them both some "folding money" as it is called in the south, and told them why the nice man was ringing the bell so we would see him. He was there to get money for people who were not as fortunate as us, and didn't have toys or even food for Christmas. My five year old son, innocent as he can be, asked why people didn't have food when there was "..lots of it in Wal-Mart." He isn't quite old enough to understand capitalism, but he did understand that he did a nice thing and put money in the red bucket. Eventually I will have to wean him off putting MY money in the bucket, and putting his own. But that is a challenge for another day, indeed, another decade.

Wal-mart and the uproar about their business. I personally applaud Wal-Mart for their business model. It is a great American success story. Now, I have issues with the eminent domain issues, but other than that it provides so much for the country. Low prices, tens of thousands of jobs, and the opportunity for many who are with very little to stretch their budgets to provide for families. I don't know why people have come to rely on minimum wage jobs to raise families, and expect health care to accompany it.

Anyway, I wish everyone a Merry Christmas! As I have gotten older, I have come to appreciate the value in the family gatherings. Both sets of grandparents stay with us, and will be here this weekend, and the kids will love it! I will hate all the dishes, and I hate cleaning house, and I hate shopping, but nothing can replace the laughs and screams on Christmas morning from a five year old getting a remote controlled dinosaur....

Opps, sssshhhhh....don't tell him, I am not supposed to know what Santa is bringing....

19 Posts From Readers:

brooke said...

Merry Christmas, Robert!

Douglas V. Gibbs said...

Christmas wasn't feeling Christmas-ey with all of this anti-Christmas propaganda flying around. Besides, wouldn't us feeling joy be offensive to those without joy?

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Anyone offended? Too bad.

Nicho said...

I was pleased to read that your son is a burgeoning communist. I'm sure that can (and will) be cured over time. What's that phrase..."out of the mouths of babes" something or other...LOL!

I do not envy your potential re-enactment of National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation and wish you the best of luck. (Having both sets of G-Rents in our house would mean the apocalypse is upon us.) To her horror my daughter discovered the true identity of Santa last year which can only mean that my boys are short to figure it out for themselves (with lots of help from the big sister). When this happens I can finally relax during the holiday season as I've had it up to liberal ears with this corporate holiday. I'm thinking of taking up the tradition of Festivus because it looks like much more fun.

Merry Christmas, Robert, to you and yours.

Your atheist friend,
-Nicho

Robert said...

Thank you Nicho. Around here, we do our best to remember why we celebrate this wonderful time of the year. My oldest has a job this year for the first time, and even took it upon herself to work another part time job just for the holidays becuse she was out of school. My next oldest did some volunteer work this year at a domestic abuse shelter.

And no, they won't do it throughout the year, I will admit. They will go back to their normal teenaged thing, whatever that may be. But we try to at least give in to the seasonal good heartedness.

It turns out that my parents called in sick. My mom apparently has a bad bug for several days that she is afraid to give to the kids, so she has graciously decided that they will stay home. But it will still be plenty of people in the space we have, but we will make do. Fortunately, all beanches of the tree get along swimmingly well.

Aren't all kids communist? I think I posted before about a similar comment when I was a kid.

And lastly, my nephew is somewhat of a prodigy. He is 8, playing the cello, and doing 9th grade math and reading. When he was 3, he whispered to my dad "I know there isn't a Santa Claus, but don't tell the little kids, they think he is real." So, Christmas lost it's fantasy status there very early as well.

Sorry to bore everyone. Have a wonderful holiday, my best to Mrs. Nicho, and to the other 5 devoted readers of my space here.

Obob said...

Have a Merry Christmas and I always put money in the Salvation Army bucket, it's a karma thing

Laurie said...

"This joy chick on 'The View.' Why did she get a pass for the outrageous comparison of Rumsfield to Hitler?"

Same reason that Coulter chick got away with saying 9/11 widows "enjoyed their husbands' deaths."

Robert said...

That isn't what Coulter said. Coulter said that they were enjoying the benefits of their husband's deaths, such as notoriety and the media's coronation of them as terrorism experts. It is kind of like Brittany Spears being seriously considered as an equal to June Cleaver.

Behar compared Rumsfield to a man who hated everyone except for white aryans, and attmpted to annihilate an entre race of people. A far cry from someone who prosecuted a legal war, with a military who endangers themselves to protect civilians.

C'mon Laurie, you are too smart to fall for the intentionally misleading statements from the left.

Philosophically, what is the difference between intentionally misquoting someone to denegrate them, and to be mistaken about an intel report? It would seem to me that the intentional lie is far more dangerous.

Nicho said...

Robert said...
That isn't what Coulter said. Coulter said that they were enjoying the benefits of their husband's deaths, such as notoriety and the media's coronation of them as terrorism experts.


"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis. I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." [Godless p.103]

Robert said...
It would seem to me that the intentional lie is far more dangerous.


Indeed. Was that lie intentional, or just your not wishing to see Coulter as the evil person that she undoubtedly is? We can talk about her motivation$ when she says or writes such horrible things, but the fact is regardless of why she does it, it is for the wrong reasons.

And you'll be happy to know, Robert, that you aren't alone in your outrage of what some twit said on The View. The Anti-Defamation League wrote a very terse letter stating, "the comparison to Hitler was inappropriate and offensive." I'm enclined to agree with them. Hitler was much more intelligent than Rumsfeld and therefore the comparison in highly inaccurate. But I'd expect that from a gossip shop.

WomanHonorThyself said...

safe and sweet holidays Robert to u and yours!!

Laurie said...

“I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much.”

--Ann Coulter

That's an exact quote, Robert. Wanna try again?

Laurie said...

"someone who prosecuted a legal war"

"to be mistaken about an intel report"

Both are highly debatable.

Ellie said...

Merry Christmas Robert!

Robert said...

Laurie, c'mon.. It isn't an EXECT quote, it is a sentence from a quote. The epitome of taking something out of context.

"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis. I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." [Godless p.103]

Notice the highlighted portion immediately before your sentence.

What is debateable is whether Hillary Clinton committed obstruction by istting on legally subpoenaed records for over a yea without turning them over. What is not debateable is that Congress, on record, approved OIF. It is also not debateable that Hussein not only possessed, but used WMDs. It is also a matter of record that the intelligence services from FIVE countries believed (and still do) that there were WMDs in Iraq immediately before our invasion. These things are only debateable on Air America.

Ellie, thank you! Sure have missed you lurking about....

Nicho said...

Robert said...
What is debateable is whether Hillary Clinton committed obstruction by istting on legally subpoenaed records for over a yea without turning them over.


Honestly, does it ever get old beating that Clinton horse to death? Can you please come up with a different target for your right-wing angst?

Robert said...
What is not debateable is that Congress, on record, approved OIF. It is also not debateable that Hussein not only possessed, but used WMDs. It is also a matter of record that the intelligence services from FIVE countries believed (and still do) that there were WMDs in Iraq immediately before our invasion. These things are only debateable on Air America.


You know what else is on record? The White House stating that it would prosecute this war with or without the approval of the US congress because of the previous congressional OK for Bush I. It's also on record that the United States told the UN Security Council it would take whatever action necessary to defend it's national security regardless of objections raised by other security council members.(Thereby telling the UN that it was going to violate the wished of the UN to go to war in Iraq because it refused to follow orders from the UN.)

Toronto Globe & Mail, 11 Nov 2002 (Sub required)

"Whatever the diplomatic niceties, Mr. Bush made it clear that he regarded the resolution to be all the authority he needed to act against Iraq should Mr. Hussein balk," diplomatic correspondents
observed. "Though Washington would consult other members of the Security Council, it would not
feel it necessary to win their approval." Echoing Powell, White House chief of staff Andrew Card
explained that "the UN can meet and discuss, but we don't need their permission."


Financial Times, 5 February 2003

"We're not going to negotiate on a second resolution, because we don't need to," a US official said on Tuesday. "If there is a resolution, it is because they (other Security Council members) need one, and are going to give the US what it wants."

The US was continuing to move forward, he added. "If the rest of the Council wants to catch up to us, we might stop briefly to sign on the dotted line." Such statements, while possibly a negotiating tactic, do mark an increasing sense of urgency in UN corridors as the Iraq crisis enters its final few weeks.


And to paraphrase one of my favorite comedians: How do we know that Iraq possessed WMDs? We looked at the receipt.

Iraq's bioweapons program that President Bush wants to eradicate got its start with help from the United States two decades ago, according to government records getting new scrutiny in light of the discussion of war against Iraq.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sent samples directly to several Iraqi sites that United Nations weapons inspectors determined were part of Saddam Hussein's biological weapons program, CDC and congressional records from the early 1990s show.

Iraq had ordered the samples, claiming it needed them for legitimate medical research.

The CDC and a biological sample company, American Type Culture Collection, sent strains of all the germs Iraq used to make weapons, including anthrax, the bacteria that make botulinum toxin and the germs that cause gas gangrene, the records show. Iraq also got samples of other deadly pathogens, including West Nile virus.


Uh-oh....did Clinton do this to the US??? Um, nope.

The transfers came in the 1980s, when the United States supported Iraq in its war with Iran. They were detailed in a 1994 Senate Banking Committee report and a 1995 follow-up letter from the CDC to the Senate.

The exports were legal at the time and approved under a program administered by the Commerce Department.


And when did Saddam actually use WMDs? 1986.

Please stop this right-wing talking point nonsense Robert. Because those five other countries (which I'm not precisely certain of - I'm only guessing based on your talking point) are all pulling out of Iraq now - many of them in embarrassment. The British Parliament is even thinking of launching a full-scale investigation about the lead up to the war on their end so they can avoid making this obvious mistake again.

The only folks that are stating that WMDs existed immediately before the invasion are LYING to you Robert. Don’t you see that?

Laurie said...

Robert, if we find WMDs in Iraq in the next 10 years, I'll mail you a check for $100.

I think your Kool-Aid has been getting stronger and stronger.

Robert said...

Nicho, I don't beat the Clinton horse to death. You must admit that I rarely even mention the name, except in light of current politics. I have even ranted about the ridiculous GOP nonsense surrounding the whole Lewinski-impeachment thing. I hated it. I jsut needed an analogy, and off the cuff, it was the only one I could come up with.

Make up your mind. Either we gave Iraq WMDs or we didn't. He either had them or he didn't. He didn't report them destroyed, and he didn't use them. Where are they? Or are you just taking the word of a tyrannical dictator that his intentions were pure?

The UN? I personally thinkw e should always do the OPPOSITE of what the UN suggests. Teddy Roosevelt said that he "Spoke softly and carried a big stick." The speech garners no respect if it is never followed by the stick. The UN voted dozens of times to threaten Iraq, but they didn't really mean it. I am personally supportive of unilateralism.

The five countries are the US, the UK, Russia, France, and Germany. I think there was also reports from Israel and Jordan, but I could be mistaken.

Laurie, they won't be found in Iraq. i will take that check if they are found in Syria, Jordan, Iran, or one of the "stans. you can mail it to your favorite animal shelter in my blog's name. I have a soft spot for animals...

Laurie said...

*gasp* ROBERT! We have found our deepest commonality, finally! I have worked with a local animal rescue organization, HOPE for Animals, for the past several years, and animal welfare is a lifelong passion of mine. I believe Gandhi was right on when he said, "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

We have a long way to go, my friend.

Robert said...

One of my annual charities is an animal shelter. I have always owned dogs, and have bred them as well. I was also a K9 handler when I was a police officer. It is probably sad to say, but I have more empathy for animals most times than people. People choose their own path, animals don't.

We have alot in common Laurie, it is just this chasm between your politics and mine that keeps us apart....Build a bridge and come on over! LOL

Laurie said...

Oh, no. Breeding must be halted until we get the epidemic overpopulation problem under control. (Did you know that, as of 2000, for every person born, there were 15 dogs and 45 cats?) SPAY AND NEUTER! WOO HOO!!!

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